One of these days I had some time to do a series of tests with my Phase One IQ140 vs my Nikon d800. The 645DF is an open platform, digital-only, medium format camera that (nearly) handles like a 35mm SLR, but with a large image area of 56 x 41.5 mm. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > ian|2. Catering for the pro market there is less in-body cooking of RAW files and obviously the profiles provided for Phase cameras in CaptureOne Pro have gotten more attention than profiles for third party cameras. Hasselblad has long been one of the top manufacturers of medium format cameras, and this series of videos compares medium format with full frame. (Note that for the sake of ease, I’m going to exclude medium format digital cameras from the commonly used “DSLR” moniker—although medium format cameras technically are DSLRs, when most people think of DSLRs they think of full frame 35mm sized cameras and smaller formats such as APS-C and the like.). Although there is an impressive lens line-up to boot, I read mixed comments about the Pentax glass. The 60 MP is the largest sensor in the Credo lineup and is said to provide a crop factor of 1; this may be true in the digital world but let us not forget that “real” medium format is 6×7, 6×6, and 6×4.5 cm. Well I don't want bigger I want better at A4 … The horse portrait shown above turned out sharp at almost 100% using the Nikon with the fast-focusing 70-200 f2.8 VR II zoom lens, which is my preferred lens for portraits. As you mention the D810; I recently purchased a D810 because I needed a second body. I shouldn't have said dSLR The Hassy dSLRs have a single autofocus point, to Nikon's 153 autofocus points. Although this setup works in principle, the flange focal distance of the Nikon F-mount (46.5 mm) plus the space needed to accommodate the hand-grip and the compressed bellows of the view camera, makes this setup completely useless for focal lengths below 90 mm. Medium Format v Large format test In reply to ResIpsaLoquitur • Mar 5, 2003 I'm interested in simplifying all the format options for my personal stuff. No, this camera will retain the perfect degree of mystery to shooters unaccustomed to medium format. Stock . Medium Format vs Full Frame Comparison. It is ideal for users on a budget as it is one of the most affordable medium format digital cameras available in the market. I have read lots of reviews on the new DSLRS and how they are only worth upgrading to if you want to print bigger. Pro Talk: Does Size Matter? Likewise, sensor types also vary from cropped to full frame to medium format. Left: Nikon D800E with 70-200 f2.8 VR II at 80 mm focal length. I mounted both cameras on separate tripods to be able to shoot within seconds in the same light. This term refers to a class of photographic equipment that has a frame measuring 45 by 60 or 60 by 90 mm. With this setup I did not mind having to change ISO settings through the menu. You can pick up a used camera for a few bucks, and they're so ubiquitous that some people just give them away. But that’s not all. So I was all excited when I unboxed what Calumet Munich had sent me for a weekend: A Mamiya 645d with a 80 mm Schneider leaf-shutter lens, a Leaf Credo 60 MP digital back, a Linhof leveling head, and a Cambo WRS equipped with a 43 mm Schneider digitar lens, featuring a 110 mm image circle. Digital capture offers several advantages with respect to film, most notably the dynamic range of about 12 stops for color images. Desert landscapes would have been even better, but are (fortunately) not accessible in this part of the world. Shooting in portrait orientation, which holds for about 80% of my images in the 4×5 aspect ratio, you will find that the Mamiya simply isn’t designed for that, and it is physically very difficult to accomplish. These days, large-format film cameras can be had on a shoestring and the savings can pay for a lot of film, development, and scanning. There is 14 months difference between D850 and X1D so we don't expect to see a huge technology … Color shifts were difficult to correct because of the 12-bit limitation. You can click on the relevant categories at the end of each post. I disregarded the different view angles of the lenses, avoiding the lens issue solely for arriving at the same perspective. No matter how great a camerais, they’ll only be so much appeal in it if the user doesn’t have the glass to help them achieve what they want. When using the viewfinder, I found the light emitted by the screen irritating. Introduction Images Technik Analysis Recommendations This all-content, junk-free website's biggest source of support is when you use any of these links to approved sources when you get anything, regardless of the country in which you live. These cameras retain the advantages of an optical viewfinder but, because they don't usually have interchangeable backs, are more compact. Both cameras were shot in RAW at base ISO (50 for the Credo, 100 for the Nikon) and processed with the Capture One software from Phase One. Discussion in 'Medium Format' started by terence_meeks, Sep 2, 2007. terence_meeks. Think about a full frame (in 35 mm standards) Foveon sensor with about 30 MP per layer. Home > H6D-100c Medium Format DSLR Camera (Body Only) H6D-100c Medium Format DSLR Camera (Body Only) $32,995.00 Shipping: Free. The Mamiya RB67 is an SLR, just like your Canon AE-1 or Nikon D810. I carried over to the DSLR the shooting discipline I had learned from using the large format equipment; setting up my sturdy Gitzo tripod, composing and focusing with live view, and using the self-timer with a three seconds delay between mirror up and shutter release. Medium Format DSLR Cameras. Medium Format - TLR vs SLR Question(s) Discussion in 'Medium Format' started by julian_goresko, Apr 8, 2007. julian_goresko. We can also hope for a price reduction on the medium-format CMOS backs, just in time before film becomes completely unavailable. George Grant toiled in obscurity for nearly three decades as the first official photographer of the National Park Service. Using the same curves, i.e., low contrast portrait, the results from both cameras are lacking color accuracy, the auto white balance of the Nikon being consistently cooler than for the Credo. Mamiya/Leaf Credo 60, Schneider 80 mm f2.8 LF, shot at ISO 50, 1/4 s, f11. In photography, medium format simply refers to a camera that has a larger sensor than a 35mm (24x36mm), or full frame DSLR camera. The Nikon also shows a pronounced shift into the magenta, while the Credo lacks saturation in the blue channel. But what I find exciting is the 100 MP back recently announced. Hi guys, I've been out of the game for a few years now. Challenge accepted! Thanks for any input. You’d have to sink more money into Zeiss Otus lenses to make the best of it. The Mamiya RB67 is an SLR, just like your Canon AE-1 or Nikon D810. Medium-format vs full-frame: Testing the Hasselblad H6D-100c and Nikon D850 I was recently asked by Hasselblad to make a series of videos, several of which were a comparison between the medium-format Hasselblad H6D-100c and the best 35mm full-frame camera on the market at the time — the Nikon D850. Are medium format digital cameras up to the task? Tips and techniques for getting started in adventure sports photography. I equipped the Nikon with the 45 PC-E tilt-shift lens, which is Nikon’s finest lens in this focal range. Another type of medium format digital camera is one based on the design of a full-framed DSLR. Here are some other advantages and disadvantages of 35mm film that you may or may not have thought of. Medium Format vs. DSLR in General Photography Talk. This may be less true for the professional backs, as we see in this example. I was a bit wary about the tests by DxOMark ranking the Sony sensors in the D800E and the Sony A7R cameras at 95 points, while the Dalsa CCD sensor in the Phase One IQ180 scores at 91 points only. Still, I am happily shooting outdoor portraits at ISO 400 to arrive at shutter speeds well below the reciprocal of 2-3 times the focal length. DSLR Vs Medium Format - PhaseOne Vs Canon Part 1 is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_n2N0RQJVM In Part 1 I show shooting with … SOme are on par with the MPIX of hasselblads and mamiya's So whats the benefit of medium format today VS pro DSLR other than the resolution? The dynamic range on a medium format camera is 14-stops more than that of a DSLR! In recent years, however, I have seen the classical photographic enlargements disappear (and with it my beloved Cibachrome polyester prints), Kodak on Chapter 11, film no more on stock at local stores, and Quickload (Fuji) and Readyload (Kodak) film sheets discontinued. What I am still missing from the D800E is the tonal separation and micro-contrast that (large format) film can deliver. The images shot are true 16-bit. In my opinion, we are already close to the end of the megapixel race. View Prices! Required fields are marked *, All images copyright 2020 by Stephan Russenschuck, all rights reserved, Fine Art Travel and Landscape Photography. Here lies the problem of digital capture in general: Do you ever shoot eyelashes as a subject in the normal course of photographing? The Credo 60 MP digital back houses a 53.9×40.4 mm DALSA CCD sensor with 6-micron pixel size and a color depth of 16 bit. None of the images I took with this equipment has found its way into my portfolio. Here come the cons—you might want to get comfortable, this might take some time: And, I almost forgot: your medium format system will likely cost you A LOT OF MONEY—we’re talking “holy crap!” levels of money! I took the Nikon, along with my 4×5 equipment, to Ladakh, Myanmar, and the USA. This is definitely not the best camera for amateur photographer. Therefore, choosing such a … I was actually talk about real-world MFT vs. real-world FF. A larger sensor provides room to produce larger lenses, which are easier to make, … But this will require both the silicon to keep up, and the development of faster lenses. So many of the older manual focus, medium format lenses are available quite reasonably. And the instant review capabilities allow achieving precise focus, depth of field, and exposure. Or a medium format mirrorless. I'm probably on thin ice with this topic, partly because I guess it's been discussed many times but here goes anyway. So, if money isn’t an issue for you, why not shoot medium format? […] comparison is from a few years ago but is still interesting. Canon simply doesn’t have the lenses to compliment a sensor of that resolution. The 36 MP Nikon D800E turned out to be a game changer, however. The best medium format cameras are great for filmmakers. The resolution of the D800E is sufficient for a 23” print, although I would consider this as an upper limit. If you place the shorter 56mm side of the 6 x 7 negative along the shorter end of the 3:2 full-frame sensor of the Nikon D800 DSLR camera’s 36.3 megapixel sensor, the approximate area size (in pixels) that would be covered by the medium format negative would be 4912 x 5877, which would be approximately 28.86 megapixels. Coming from a used Nikon F2, I soon switched to large-format, 4×5” view cameras. This higher color rendering accounts for “three-dimensionality” of medium format images, which is often attributed to the smoother transition into the out-of-focus areas. You can pretty much forget about shooting wildlife with a medium format system! However, the 45 PC-E has visibly more lateral chromatic aberrations than the 80 mm Schneider LS. Browse and buy exceptional, royalty-free stock clips, handpicked by the best. A couple of aspects became evident with the first test shots: the E version has a clear advantage in pixel acuity, moiré is not an issue (I am not shooting weddings and fashion), and the camera is very demanding on lenses; every optical flaw is revealed. If you think of a medium-format camera’s performance in terms of a modern DSLR or mirrorless camera, you can surmise that a bigger sensor would mean more “megapixels” — in turn, these larger variants resolve more detail and color than their 35mm counterparts. May 2019 Better Pictures Canon Sony Nikon Fuji LEICA Zeiss Hasselblad All Reviews Sony vs. Nikon vs. Canon Full-Frame Fujifilm GFX 50R Review Nikon Z7 Review Canon 5DS/R Review DSLR vs. I used a 4×5 field camera for years, along with a “backup” medium format camera for working in fast changing light, before making the switch to a 35mm format DSLR almost ten years ago. Honestly, I … For all of the reasons I have outlined above, I really don’t think that it will. DSLR's have really high MPIX now. But that’s not to say it’ll be familiar. Ren and Helen Davis want to make sure his story isn’t lost to history. I have gotten film x-rayed to death at security checkpoints, was harassed for setting up a tripod, had difficulty in finding a quality lab for film development, and had to send my images across the Atlantic for quality drum-scanning. The D810 has improved somewhat in tonality, in particular in the highlights, which closes the gap to the CCD sensors even more. These lenses are seen as obsolete. And I am sure that the Linhofs will be working just fine, as long as we can still buy sheet film, in another 20 years; I am just as sure the present digital cameras won’t be. Another … If you’re super rich, then by all means, splurge on a medium format digital system. The lens weighs only 450 g, which could be an advantage, but it also makes the combo unbalanced because of the heavy Credo back. It is ideal for users on a budget as it is one of the most affordable medium format digital cameras available in the market. For a long time, medium-format digital backs with CCD sensors separated themselves from 35 mm digital cameras by a huge gap in image quality and resolution, albeit the tenfold price. Dynamic range on a medium format camera is 14-stops higher. In this respect the D800E is much more demanding. The image quality of this camera has triggered shootouts with medium format systems such as the Leica S, Hasselblad H4D, and the Mamiya/Leaf combo. Medium Format digital cameras have sensors that are significantly larger than full frame DSLR’s. Because of the relatively small capture area, the camera makers force on us aggressive digital sharpening (and noise reduction). So you get a little less depth of field, requiring the use of smaller apertures, which means longer exposures (which can be a problem in windy conditions, for example). “Hide and Seek”—Ding Darling National Wildlife Refuge, USA. I for my part will wait a year or two before I upgrade. Similar resolutions one would say (40mpix vs 36mpix) and Nikon even pitch the d800 as a replacement for medium format. The camera was later re-released in 1969 with improvements and with a new name, now the ‘Asahi Pentax 6×7’. DxOMark attributes almost the same marks for color depth (25.6 points for the Nikon, 26.5 for the IQ180), which looks strange given the results from the horse portrait (except if we were seeing a flaw in the 70-200 zoom lens rather than a difference in the sensor architecture). Output sizes below 200 dpi yield blurred images whereas uprezing results in digital artifacts and washed out surfaces. Sometime ago a wild flicker user challenged me that any full frame SLR can do what a medium format (MF) film camera can do. Let’s wait another 2-3 years. The Mamiya system retails at around $ 31 k without tax, while the Cambo adds another $ 5 k including tax, but without the lens. Stock . Let’s start with the pros: I love using my DSLR for night photography, such as with this moonlit scene above. Frankly, I’ve grown addicted to the speed and flexibility that a 35mm format digital system offers, and the quality is more than sufficient for the vast majority of my needs. The best medium format cameras are great for filmmakers. Of course, as medium format evolves, the same gains we see in full-frame over smaller sensors might find their ways into the format. In the meantime we can wait for DSLRs with larger signal-to-noise ratios allowing for a genuine 16-bit sampling. Here lies an advantage of the CMOS sensor; I had no such issue when mounting the D800E on my Linhof using the Photodiox adapter. Discussion in 'Medium Format' started by terence_meeks, Sep 2, 2007. terence_meeks. For me, the definition of an outstanding image boils down to a simple question: wouldn’t I mind spending big bucks on printing and framing of an image, displaying it in my home, and looking at it for hours on end? But once you dig into the details, Hasselblad medium format photography is defined by so much more. Since then it has gone through a few re-introductions and name changes, ultimately ending up with the ‘Pentax 67’ and ‘Pentax 67II’. The view finder is bright and huge, and can thus be used for manual focusing. “Focus and recompose” is neither fast nor precise for the resolution of the modern sensors. I was told that the leaf shutter requires such a light-weight construction for  the autofocus motor to cope with. With the advent of more affordable medium format camera systems like the Fuji GFX 50S and Pentax 645Z putting medium format into the hands of more photographers, whether or not digital medium format is truly ‘better’ than a full frame DSLR or mirrorless camera becomes an important question for those who may be torn between the two. When the Mamiya/Leaf combo delivers, there is a clear advantage stemming from the larger sensor real estate. One looks like a cube and the other looks like a more classical camera. Continuing the success story of the 50MP CMOS sensor we have added a 100MP option to the range, delivering unmatchable image quality and the ability to resolve the finest detail with our HC & HCD lenses, whose pedigree has long been proven through … A recommended […], Your email is never published nor shared. But seeing the digital back manufacturers turn away from CCD to a Sony sensor with CMOS architecture, similar to the one in the D800E, I considered it high time to go for a test drive. In photography, medium format simply refers to a camera that has a larger sensor than a 35mm (24x36mm), or full frame DSLR camera. There is a better tonal separation in the horse’s fur and a smoother transition into the highlights, although the white spot is blown out due to the slightly lower dynamic range of the Credo. In fact, medium format wasn’t really all that popular with landscape photographers—4×5 and 8×10 cameras were all the rage. Medium Format digital vs DSLR. At this point in the evolution of digital camera technology, size really doesn’t matter as much as it used to. Of course, as medium format evolves, the same gains we see in full-frame over smaller sensors might find their ways into the format. DSLR Vs Medium Format - PhaseOne Vs Canon Part 1 is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_n2N0RQJVM In Part 1 I show shooting with … In discussion forums, these tests have consequently drawn comments that it would be illicit to “compare apples and oranges” and that there are “horses for courses”. If only the Otuses were F2.0 instead of F1.4. If used with taste, a variety of digital darkroom techniques, such as exposure blending, focus stacking, and image stitching can help to improve the image quality. Optically, though, there is nothing left to desire; the lens is sharp to the corners from around f4 and usable up to aperture 16 before diffraction sets in. Medium Format DSLR Cameras. And the autofocus motor, surprisingly slow, sounds like a washing machine. Scenes with a lot of detail could certainly benefit from the extra-large sensor size offered by medium format digital systems—but is the juice worth the squeeze? Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > ian|2. But then, if the photography sucks at 1 fps, it will suck twice at 2 fps. A number of comprehensive test reports have been published on the Nikon D800E. Using the somewhat lagging live view on the Credo circumvents focusing on the ground glass. Right: Mamiya/Leaf. Hello, I would like to subscribe for this website to obtain newest updates, therefore where can i do it please assist. Its image sensor is much bigger than those found in most high end DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. It seems that the sensor cannot make up for the Pentax lens quality. Not only will there typically be a wider range of optics from the… Over the years, my equipment has included Linhof Technika and Technikardan Cameras and lenses from 27 to 150 mm, on 35 mm equivalent. Medium Format uses larger sensors and more depth from 16 Bits than DSLR 14 Bits. The medium format system is not made for action, and it has never claimed to be. Moreover, I saw these cameras (and the storage media) being outdated not even two years after the purchase; I already wasted more money on digital cameras than on the entire large-format outfit. At first impression, the lens retailing at about $ 3 k is a no-go, with a plastic barrel and hood that doesn’t snugly lock into place. I would realley like to know how you would like ” to descibe …the look” of a D810 compared to a phase one image when both printed with the appropriate ” adjustments”… using capture one conversion ( if possible) and is the purchase of a phase one ” significant enough” in terms of appearance? Pentax 6×7 top. Too bad that there is no revolving back or a second tripod socket like on the Pentax 645D. Intro. Medium-format cameras have long been in the hands of working pros because of their combination of ease of use and incredible image quality. Thanks for the comparison. So for the next example I set out for the trees, mainly because the high frequency details tend to break up the images at the micro level, which then results in lost midtone richness. As such, its operation is a little less archaic than the ‘Cords listed above. Not that I want/can spend the money, but it shows where technology is heading. And the Otus is truly amazing as I could find out myself on a recent visit to Zuerich. Take the time to study and learn about your subjects for more meaningful wildlife images. The dials are almost DSLR like and thus self-explaining. I thus spare no effort; when I visualize an image at a remote place, which I might be able to visit only once in a lifetime, I just want to have the best equipment with me. Here lies the problem of digital capture in general: Do you ever shoot eyelashes as a subject in the normal course of photographing? I just can’t fill the frame. It allows mounting lenses from 23 to about 150 mm focal length without a bellows and takes mounting plates for Hasselblad, Leaf, and Phase One digital backs. I know they've came out with some new models now with improvements. The camera itself is made from an aluminum-magnesium alloy and has a solid feel, except for the grip that is too small for my hands, and for the weight of the combo. $50,000 can pay for a lot of trips to exotic shooting locations. Likewise, sensor types also vary from cropped to full frame to medium format. Are TLRs better or is it just a shape preference? The first hiccup as regards the screen is that it cannot be switched off completely. The Pentax 6x7 (known as Pentax 67 after 1990) is a SLR medium format system film camera for 120 and 220 film, which produces images on the film that are nominally 6 cm by 7 cm in size (56mm by 70mm in the film gate), made by Pentax. I was not looking forward to spend in the two-digit, k$ range, but I really wanted this medium-format combo to work out for me. The shorter flange focal distance of a mirrorless would make an adapter solution to large format (Grafloc back) feasible, which is excluded for the Pentax 645Z with its 70.8 mm mirror box. Using the Mamiya/Leaf combo I had only a few keepers, mainly due to the inferior focusing system with only one focus point. Ken. The largest advantage is cost. medium format vs DSLRs. A brief overview of the different styles of medium format cameras, as well as some model suggestions for anyone who is looking to purchase their first one. Approve the Cookies This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. If all the DSLR cameras have almost the same shape, then everything is different with medium format ones, as each has a unique shape and weight. There is no doubt that digital has surpassed the quality of 35mm film, but medium format film still offers tremendous quality and is significantly cheaper than digital medium format.

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